Comments on: The conversation that we should have had http://blog.cascade.org/2012/01/new-dialogue/ Creating a better community through bicycling, throughout Seattle, King County and Washington state. Thu, 23 May 2013 03:08:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Elvis Velo http://blog.cascade.org/2012/01/new-dialogue/comment-page-1/#comment-38622 Elvis Velo Wed, 04 Jan 2012 00:09:49 +0000 http://blog.cascade.org/?p=10375#comment-38622 re: bjh +1 re: bjh
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]]> By: Julian http://blog.cascade.org/2012/01/new-dialogue/comment-page-1/#comment-38621 Julian Wed, 04 Jan 2012 00:07:34 +0000 http://blog.cascade.org/?p=10375#comment-38621 And why are you singling out so-called "bicyclists" for hardly unique self-absorbed behaviors seen in all modes of transportation?!! As an almost irrelevant aside - it's rare to find stop signs for the trail that don't also have zebra-stripes alerting the road users to yield to trail traffic. In these mid-block crossings, SDOT seems to want everyone to stop. A bit confusing, and often excessive, IMO. And why are you singling out so-called “bicyclists” for hardly unique self-absorbed behaviors seen in all modes of transportation?!!

As an almost irrelevant aside – it’s rare to find stop signs for the trail that don’t also have zebra-stripes alerting the road users to yield to trail traffic. In these mid-block crossings, SDOT seems to want everyone to stop. A bit confusing, and often excessive, IMO.

]]> By: bjh http://blog.cascade.org/2012/01/new-dialogue/comment-page-1/#comment-38618 bjh Tue, 03 Jan 2012 23:50:43 +0000 http://blog.cascade.org/?p=10375#comment-38618 Have you used a vacuum cleaner lately? Most don't do what they're suppose to, and in fact send dust into the air in a very unhealthy manner. They are bulky and sometimes don't go the right direction and don't fit where they are used.... sounds familiar.... Just like being on the Burke Gilman trail; the bicyclists think they can keep going when they HAVE a stop sign and the cars stop without one. Cars may pollute out their exhaust pipes, but what message is being sent out when a bicyclist is zipping between cars and buses and putting everybody at risk? I do not think its "us vs. them"; I walk, I bike, I drive a car, I take a bus, and I am a motorcyclist. Each time I use a 'road' I respect every road-user, until they prove otherwise.... There's an hierarchy in just about everything; I swimmer doesn't cut in front of a kayak. A Kayak doesn't cut in front of a boat. A boat doesn't cut in front of a ferry. A ferry doesn't cut in front of a container ship. Why does a bike cut in front of a car or bus or pedestrian when they have a stop sign and the others don't?!! Have you used a vacuum cleaner lately? Most don’t do what they’re suppose to, and in fact send dust into the air in a very unhealthy manner. They are bulky and sometimes don’t go the right direction and don’t fit where they are used…. sounds familiar…. Just like being on the Burke Gilman trail; the bicyclists think they can keep going when they HAVE a stop sign and the cars stop without one. Cars may pollute out their exhaust pipes, but what message is being sent out when a bicyclist is zipping between cars and buses and putting everybody at risk? I do not think its “us vs. them”; I walk, I bike, I drive a car, I take a bus, and I am a motorcyclist. Each time I use a ‘road’ I respect every road-user, until they prove otherwise…. There’s an hierarchy in just about everything; I swimmer doesn’t cut in front of a kayak. A Kayak doesn’t cut in front of a boat. A boat doesn’t cut in front of a ferry. A ferry doesn’t cut in front of a container ship. Why does a bike cut in front of a car or bus or pedestrian when they have a stop sign and the others don’t?!!

]]> By: Marge Evans http://blog.cascade.org/2012/01/new-dialogue/comment-page-1/#comment-38617 Marge Evans Tue, 03 Jan 2012 23:28:14 +0000 http://blog.cascade.org/?p=10375#comment-38617 so your wife doesn't ride her bicycle? so your wife doesn’t ride her bicycle?

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