Comments on: Cyclist struck by driver on Dexter Avenue, left unconscious on side of the road http://blog.cascade.org/2012/08/jerry-scott/ Creating a better community through bicycling, throughout Seattle, King County and Washington state. Sat, 18 May 2013 16:21:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: TypeOne http://blog.cascade.org/2012/08/jerry-scott/comment-page-1/#comment-61130 TypeOne Sat, 18 Aug 2012 00:10:11 +0000 http://blog.cascade.org/?p=15289#comment-61130 So apparently the punishment handed out to Mike Wang's killer on August 10 didn't deter a hit & run just 4 days later. I don't know if 3+ years in prison was enough of a penalty for the crime, but I thought it was a positive sign that law enforcement and the courts would not go lightly on a motorist who hits a bicyclist and flees the scene. And I hoped that people took notice. Glad this cyclist is ok, and with any luck we will see justice soon. So apparently the punishment handed out to Mike Wang’s killer on August 10 didn’t deter a hit & run just 4 days later.
I don’t know if 3+ years in prison was enough of a penalty for the crime, but I thought it was a positive sign that law enforcement and the courts would not go lightly on a motorist who hits a bicyclist and flees the scene. And I hoped that people took notice.
Glad this cyclist is ok, and with any luck we will see justice soon.

]]> By: Randy Near http://blog.cascade.org/2012/08/jerry-scott/comment-page-1/#comment-61003 Randy Near Fri, 17 Aug 2012 01:49:42 +0000 http://blog.cascade.org/?p=15289#comment-61003 I rode passed the accident at 6:58 and by that time the paramedics were working on him. I wish him well and a speedy recovery, as for the driver he/she will eventually be caught and suffer the punishment. Very disturbing. I rode passed the accident at 6:58 and by that time the paramedics were working on him. I wish him well and a speedy recovery, as for the driver he/she will eventually be caught and suffer the punishment. Very disturbing.

]]> By: M.J. Kelly http://blog.cascade.org/2012/08/jerry-scott/comment-page-1/#comment-60998 M.J. Kelly Fri, 17 Aug 2012 01:06:31 +0000 http://blog.cascade.org/?p=15289#comment-60998 Jerry said he left his home in Phinney at about 6:45 and woke up in the ER at 7:30. So he likely went down around 7 a.m. Jerry said he left his home in Phinney at about 6:45 and woke up in the ER at 7:30. So he likely went down around 7 a.m.

]]> By: mjc http://blog.cascade.org/2012/08/jerry-scott/comment-page-1/#comment-60994 mjc Thu, 16 Aug 2012 23:59:12 +0000 http://blog.cascade.org/?p=15289#comment-60994 Editing myself here: Sidewalks are NOT very safe. Putting you and the pedestrians and motorists at risk. Editing myself here: Sidewalks are NOT very safe. Putting you and the pedestrians and motorists at risk.

]]> By: mjc http://blog.cascade.org/2012/08/jerry-scott/comment-page-1/#comment-60993 mjc Thu, 16 Aug 2012 23:57:45 +0000 http://blog.cascade.org/?p=15289#comment-60993 Riding on the sidewalk is equally as dangerous. Pedestrians are more spontaneous in their choices than cars, pedestrian traffic coming out of doorways is dangerous and crossing streets is a trap since cars aren't looking for faster moving two wheeled traffic entering cross walks and puts you at risk. So, I guess I'm saying that sidewalks are very safe. I had a friend that was taken out by a cyclist once. He was stepping out of a store and was blind sided by a cyclist going way too fast on the sidewalk. It left him with a lot of injuries. Ironically more than he'd ever experienced as a high level road bike racer. So be careful Safety Sycler, they're out to get you on the sidewalk. -m Riding on the sidewalk is equally as dangerous. Pedestrians are more spontaneous in their choices than cars, pedestrian traffic coming out of doorways is dangerous and crossing streets is a trap since cars aren’t looking for faster moving two wheeled traffic entering cross walks and puts you at risk. So, I guess I’m saying that sidewalks are very safe. I had a friend that was taken out by a cyclist once. He was stepping out of a store and was blind sided by a cyclist going way too fast on the sidewalk. It left him with a lot of injuries. Ironically more than he’d ever experienced as a high level road bike racer.

So be careful Safety Sycler, they’re out to get you on the sidewalk.

-m

]]> By: Meghan http://blog.cascade.org/2012/08/jerry-scott/comment-page-1/#comment-60986 Meghan Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:50:01 +0000 http://blog.cascade.org/?p=15289#comment-60986 I can understand the tendancy to want to ride on the sidewalk, but you are much more statistically likely to get hit there. I've been hit twice and both times I was in a crosswalk between sidewalks. I can understand the tendancy to want to ride on the sidewalk, but you are much more statistically likely to get hit there. I’ve been hit twice and both times I was in a crosswalk between sidewalks.

]]> By: Bob Anderton http://blog.cascade.org/2012/08/jerry-scott/comment-page-1/#comment-60983 Bob Anderton Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:17:11 +0000 http://blog.cascade.org/?p=15289#comment-60983 This is horrible. If people ever see something like this, please photograph the car's plate as soon as you can. Also, remember if you have car insurance, UIM coverage protects you in situations like this. And, if you don't have car insurance, state Crime Victim's Compensation may at least assist with paying medical bills. Best wishes for a speedy recovery. This is horrible. If people ever see something like this, please photograph the car’s plate as soon as you can.

Also, remember if you have car insurance, UIM coverage protects you in situations like this. And, if you don’t have car insurance, state Crime Victim’s Compensation may at least assist with paying medical bills.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

]]> By: Laura http://blog.cascade.org/2012/08/jerry-scott/comment-page-1/#comment-60979 Laura Thu, 16 Aug 2012 19:20:01 +0000 http://blog.cascade.org/?p=15289#comment-60979 you are much more likely to get hit on the sidewalk - the cars are not looking for cyclists on the sidewalk when exiting or entering parking lots, etc. also - you are more likely to hit a ped which is not a good result either. bad idea. you are much more likely to get hit on the sidewalk – the cars are not looking for cyclists on the sidewalk when exiting or entering parking lots, etc.
also – you are more likely to hit a ped which is not a good result either.
bad idea.

]]> By: Hay http://blog.cascade.org/2012/08/jerry-scott/comment-page-1/#comment-60971 Hay Thu, 16 Aug 2012 18:12:34 +0000 http://blog.cascade.org/?p=15289#comment-60971 Anyone have the time? Better details on the location? I was at the Dexter/Denny light, on Dexter, heading North at 7:19 am (by that digital sign on Dexter) When a black sedan type car heading South on Dexter (not a car person but if this may help I will google car types to see if I can get a better description) ran a red light to head east on Denny Way. Could be just a jerk, but thought I might mention it in case it might help? And for the sidewalk cyclist. My teen age son (like many teens) did not listen to my warnings about NOT riding on sidewalks and he was hit on 2nd and Denny. He had the Walk signal, but that crosswalk is in the shade from trees (another VERY dangerous spot). The driver did stop :) and my son does not ride on sidewalks. Anyone have the time? Better details on the location? I was at the Dexter/Denny light, on Dexter, heading North at 7:19 am (by that digital sign on Dexter) When a black sedan type car heading South on Dexter (not a car person but if this may help I will google car types to see if I can get a better description) ran a red light to head east on Denny Way. Could be just a jerk, but thought I might mention it in case it might help?

And for the sidewalk cyclist. My teen age son (like many teens) did not listen to my warnings about NOT riding on sidewalks and he was hit on 2nd and Denny. He had the Walk signal, but that crosswalk is in the shade from trees (another VERY dangerous spot). The driver did stop :) and my son does not ride on sidewalks.

]]> By: nate http://blog.cascade.org/2012/08/jerry-scott/comment-page-1/#comment-60966 nate Thu, 16 Aug 2012 17:28:20 +0000 http://blog.cascade.org/?p=15289#comment-60966 When you are riding on the sidewalk, people driving cars are less likely to see you when you are crossing intersections. If you are going to ride through intersections at speeds above, oh I don't know about 5mph or so, it is often safer to be in the street (near where cars might be, as that's what most drivers are keeping their eyes out for). Of course, this doesn't apply to every route or area. There's definitely sidewalk in this town without peds or tons of intersections where it can make perfect sense to ride. If you are clearly visible to turning traffic and not running down peds or cruising past shop doors, no problem. When you are riding on the sidewalk, people driving cars are less likely to see you when you are crossing intersections. If you are going to ride through intersections at speeds above, oh I don’t know about 5mph or so, it is often safer to be in the street (near where cars might be, as that’s what most drivers are keeping their eyes out for).
Of course, this doesn’t apply to every route or area. There’s definitely sidewalk in this town without peds or tons of intersections where it can make perfect sense to ride. If you are clearly visible to turning traffic and not running down peds or cruising past shop doors, no problem.

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